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Windows Vista is Garbage
Sun, 03/11/2007 - 11:34am — Kevin
I had the unfortunate need to pick up a new laptop because my other one took a dive. I needed it to perform business functions and could not find a store that sold a Linux or XP based machine for a reasonable price. I have been attempting to set up a standard php, mySQL, Apache configuration with phpMyAdmin and Eclipse installed. I have been fighting with this operating system for over 14 consecutive hours at this point and completely hate the experience I have gone through. My last hurdle before I went to sleep was getting phpMyAdmin working correctly. I finally got it working and was able to access the mySQL installation. I created a database and was able to insert and retreive data through the interface. I turned on the laptop this morning and Vista has eliminated the work I performed last night and disabled what I did to get phpMyAdmin working. Allow me to put this into perspective. 14 consecutive hours of solid work by an experienced developer to simply create a workable environment compared with the hour and a half it took me to perform a clean installation of ubuntu and create the same environment.I can now back up the hatred I have for Windows Vista with solid facts and I have every intention of doing so. Top complaints right now that I have every intention of expanding on in detail:File Sharing is complete crap. I can use Samba with no problems from XP boxes to my Linux machines. The Vista machine sits in a complete void on the network. I can't ping it and it can't ping other non-windows machines. I can't even ftp to another machine on my internal network because VIsta is completely refusing to acknowledge the presence of anything with the exception of media files on another pc. The interesting part of the media files sharing is we never authorized the new windows media player to be installed on the other machine and were quite surprised when we were presented with a prompt on that machine about sharing it's media with this laptop that refuses to network with anything else. I get an error on startup ... the top portion sayssomething along the lines of "Operation completed succesfully" ... the bottom portion indicates the "Succesful Completion" is an error. I'm going to provide a screen shot of this one because it would be absolutely hillarious if I didn't need to work on this machine.You know those Mac commercials with the lawyer interjecting between the communicatios of the Mac and the PC? I'm not a Mac fanboy and gave Vista the benefit of the doubt that the commercial was an over-exageration. It is not. Even when you tell Vista you are the administrator and confirm the multitude of annoying popups to perform the action you want the likelyhood is high it will still tell you that you do not have permission to do what you want.The OS is destroying my productivity. I should be done with the projects I'm working on and heading up to the mountains to go snowboarding. Instead, I am trying to reconfigure what I already had configured and working before I turned the machine off.The underlying system is the same ... DOS commands are stillcompletely retarded. I still have to reboot the machine to join a different workgroup. The main difference is an obnoxiously confuscated GUI that makes most things impossible to find in a rapid time frame.I can't install my paid for copy of Microsoft Office 2003 because the OS has security issues with it.UNzipping files is incredibly slow. It took an hour and a half to unzip a 118mb compressed eclipse file. I finally figured out I could download a free program called 7zip to perform the extraction at a normal speed. Let me rephrase that ... I have to use a third party program to unzip files at a useable speed because Vistahas nerfed the process bad.Positive Attributes:It looks cool. Quite frankly, I could care less about the way it looks ... Get rid of the headache I have and give me back the wasted time I have invested thus far into this thing. Make it work before you make it look pretty you morons.The search function is useful in the start menu because it helps weed through the complete failure of a UI and usability.The fingerprint scanner is cool ... but guess what? It's a hardware/software feature of the Lenovo notebook and has nothing to do with Vista.You better believe I am going to write a lot more about this.
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Vista
I agree with you, the Windows Vista is complete friggin garbage, when i installed it half my hardware and software didnt work because of this shitness, aswell most importantly im a engineernig stupid i use catia on a regular basis, Vista cant even run it or install it.
Dead right mate - Vista is
Dead right mate - Vista is the biggest pile of bollocks I have ever seen in 12 years of IT admin and management.
The idea is to go forward but all microsnot has done is they pasted a supposedly good-looking GUI on top of millions of lines of garbage code, the result is a system that belongs next to Linux in the "hobby OS" pigeon hole and miles away from any sysadmin's toolkit - let alone ANYWHERE near a corporate network!
If you think I'm insance, how about this?
Vista cannot be pinged from ANY machine on the network!
Vista can ping any machine on the network APART from the Exchange server.
Vista can not connect to Exchange using Outlook.
After 3 days of fiddling with this pile of garbage which includes turning off its firewalls, getting rid of IPV6 and most other bullshit crap which should not even be required I have given up and gone back to XP - it is time to accept the fact that microsnot dont give a fuck about you, your computer or what you need or think.
Face it, Vista is a disaster but human beings are sheep, and so microfuckingrubbishsoftware are the next big thing.
Why don't we all just kill ouorselves and be done with it, oh I'd know who I'd liek to kill first thank you very much.
I do not agree to the whole
I do not agree to the whole thing. The only problem with Vista would be that there are many versions affordable but not complete but there is just on version which includes everthing(not affordable )-; ). Problems about Windows Vista are slowly disappearing as with any other new "Microsoft" OS, as manufacturers of other software as well have brought out versions that can be run on VIsta (On 1st of Apr, 2007 there were 90% incompatible software with Vista, but on the 1st of July, 2007 it would be 90% compatible software with Windows Vista) (Note: The remaining 10% could run on Vista maybe after many years, or after an XP emulator has been created)
Please understand that when Win XP came out there were many incompatible software but soon almost all the software became compatible.
Ofcourse there is no Microsoft software that is error free. But I guess Vista is 10 times as error free as compared to the time when Xp was brought out.
It would surely run properly...............................in NO Time.
Vista
@George
If your saying
"Vista cannot be pinged from ANY machine on the network!
Vista can ping any machine on the network APART from the Exchange server.
Vista can not connect to Exchange using Outlook."
and you been working with computers for 13 years then you should really quit
"Vista can be pinged from ANY machine on the network!
Vista can ping any machine on the network EVEN the Exchange server.
Vista can connect to Exchange using Outlook."
@All
Vista will bring better features later on once all the bugs/compabilty issues have been sorted which is roughly 90%~ like the other person said. If you dont like it dont use it, the only reason you dislike it is because you are used to an other OS and cba to learn a new one. Once you have got vista running with every thing sorted it runs like a charm. I was beta testing vista and i didnt like it since of the bugs so i waited a month after it came out to get it and all my hardware had drivers and worked fine.
Vista
Like Vista meoooow it`s like so cool , look at it 3D Flip , Transparency , absolutely beautiful but if im honest it`s shit . Has severe driver problems Microsoft shouldn't of released it yet if they "knew" they would have compatibility problems . It`s a pity Vista could be alot more , as of right now its like a good looking dumb blonde . Thats my 2 cents anyhoo
Vista is problematic
Windows Vista also seems to use alot more memory than it suppose to (compared to XP). When playing games it seems to get an OUT OF MEMORY ERROR. This is using 2GB of memory a 2.4GHZ Quad Core Processor with 8 MB Cache and a Nividia 8800 GTS video Card. I know its obviously not the computer. Playing the same game using XP and the memory resources is used approprietly. This message never appears while using XP. I read somewhere that microsoft is aware of this problem and working to fix this probably in service pack 1. However, until they correct this Vista is useless for playing any intense games as of now. If you are thinking of upgrading to Vista and play any demanding resources games forget about getting Vista. Its just a headache.
Another potential issue i notice with Vista. I have a 250GB hard drive. I calculated the total amount of space all my programs I installed on the computer using Programs and Features from the control panel to be about 27GB. Yet, my computer shows it has 153GB free space. I know there are temporary files and some other hidden programs. However, somehow my computer has used about 100 GB of my hard drive and I barely have anything installed on my computer. My older computer which uses XP has the same programs I have on this new computer and alot more that I havent even transferred and it only has used up 75GB of hard drive space. If I were to transfer all those programs to my new computer I dont think it would fit in my 250GB hard drive.
All I can say about Vista is that it is currently not worth it. Don't upgrade you will only be downgrading your computer to a bunch of headaches. All I can do is wait till they fix these propblems in a patch, but if they dont do this soon I might have to just install XP on this computer because it is a shame that I have a blazing fast computer being held back by a pathetic operating system.
Yes vista is waste of time
it is not working with any of the tools like zend studio 5.0, apache 2.0, php 5.0 and mysql only wamp 1.2.7 is able to run successfully and that too gives error in phpmyadmin we have to manually reconfigure it
Vista worldwide
Canadian public libraries, sectors of the U.S government, and most of the slightly intelligent world don't use or allow vista. Does this say anything to the (have to assume employees of or developers Windows vista) vista lovers out there! Free downloadable OP's are more compatible and usefull than vista. The only good thing anybody has to say about vista is how good it looks. Please, do you use your computer or just look at it. All the looks take power that could be used towards the fuctionability. In all we get a pretty face to look at that takes all fuctionability away from us and we pay a fortune for it. This should be the end for Windblows but the lemmings of the world will blindly follow Microsoft off the deep end. Check the net out vista is a junk OP that seems like it was developed in some basement, if even.
Its down to your PC
Sorry, but I have to disagree.
Even though I also have discovered about 159 annoying things in Vista in 5 minutes since I installed it - its still perfectly usable.
I have no idea why it would take you ages to unzip 118mb - frankly this problem is individual to you - file copying is RAPID for me.
Again your error on install probably relates to the hardware you have, the CD you are using - or the config. Everybody else has no problems - and Vista installs 2 times faster than XP.
Yes, there are lots of annoying things about the GUI - but after 2 hours of turning everything off and setting it up like XP - it actually stops handling like a pile of shit - and you can make use of DirectX 10.1.
THERE IS NO OTHER REASON TO USE VISTA. If you are a gamer - USE XP64. If you use your PC for work/Visual Studio - USE XP.
Vista is utter garbage UNLESS you have 4gb memory, a decent CPU, and a GOOD DirectX 10.1 card.
Otherwise dont bother, and certainly dont complain.
People who are trying to use Vista for no apparent reason, and then complaining that their 5 year old PC wont run it properly - I have no sympathy for.
Stick to XP64. Simple.
Annoyances
1. Turn off Windows Defender / Notifications / Autoscan (1am)
2. Turn off Windows Firewall / Bollocks / Lame
3. Turn off System Restore / Bollocks / Lame
4. Turn off Security Center / Bollocks / Utterly Pointless
5. Turn off about 20 more crappy pointless services.
Its the same in XP, it takes 2 hours of turning crap off - until you get it to a level where its actually usable and not just shit.